vision'R Claire on her project Alice Special iPodU Session Response
One of the many artists and performers from vision'R Claire talks about her process and the concept behind the work "Alice." Please watch this talk and post your response.
Watching this lecture made me wish that I had been able to see Claire'e piece, because the way she described it, I couldn't quite understand what it actually was; I got a good impression, but it is nothing like being there and experiencing it, of course. Also the audio was pretty poor for me, there was a lot of background noise which interfered with her speech, so I wasn't sure I was getting the entire picture. What I did get from her explanation was that it was done on a digital projection overhead, and based on Alice in Wonderland. Claire said she had a certain affinity with the character, and that was how she came to choose it. She didn't really explain her connection with Alice, however, until much later in the lecture - or at least, when she began talking about what the meaning and the concept of the piece was, I got a sense of what had driven her to create this art.
She mentioned that she reinterprets Alice's story in her own work, and extracts a main theme from the story. What she is trying to show is Alice's fall, and her work is all about this one moment in Alice's story. Again, here the audio was pretty poor, cut I believe she said something about showing the exact moment of when you fall: that it is always the same (that is, when you fall you'll always have the same sensation, etc.), but it is always different as well. I couldn't really understand this, but there is an old saying, "You can't step in the same river twice". Perhaps this sort of wisdom is applicable here. Raph went on to ask her about how she herself explores video, and that you can explore the motion (in Claire's case, the fall of Alice) and see it for what it is, or you can derive a meaning from this motion. For Claire, the motion of falling represents the time you are alive, a period in which you will grow and move from one stage to another. I think this concept can tie in with the fall being always the same and always different. Every moment in life is unique, distinct and individual, and the passage of time ties them together, but even though it may feel the same, or routine, it never is.
These are situations, agreeing with Elana, that I had seen Claire's Alice piece. Combining her fascination with video art and connecting it with the story of Alice in Wonderland seems very interesting, which is an interesting concept because Alice in Wonderland has so many different levels of meaning.
Her connection tot he story was what drove her in creating the piece. She brought up the "falling down the rabbit hole" many times- which, to me, is where the connection lies.
Film is her medium of choice because to her, it allows more exploration than drawing, her original visual medium. I think it's important to understand fundamental art skills like drawing because it is what all these mediums derived from- the question is if it's "really important" for a creator to have explored those "primitive" mediums before the younger ones. Maybe it's just important to be well rounded?
I agree that VJ's do break the cinematic narrative by combining story and visual elements. Clairs use of the story of Alice and representing it in a different manner is an example of that.
I also had a bit of a hard time understand all of the lecture, with the background noises and distractions. The piece she did, which I wish I could have seen, is on a topic which intrigues me. I always classify Alice in Wonderland to be the scariest movie of all time. The way the story is told, the turns and twists, and how the movie is supposed to be a kids movie, but it is more like an acid trip gone bad (disclaimer: I've never done acid, I'm just guessing).
I understood that there was an overhead camera projecting the piece, and she was underneath with a cello player. Besides that I didn't catch much besides what Elana and Stephen commented on.
I would have really liked to see this piece because of my fascination with Alice in Wonderland, and my fear of the movie.
As I have said before I enjoy misrepresented intentions. In the case of Claire taking Alice in Wonderland to a different place and using the narrative for her own purposes.
I did a project that reinterprets a story for a different purpose -- (http://www.wavinghand.com/nmd203/a2.html) BASIC EXPLANATION : Therefore the game is based on, wordplay, scavenger hunting, and puzzle solving. The game is very graphic with violence and some scenes that deem the game an R-rating. Therefore, i wanted to use some of the wordplay (which i find very intersting), anagrams, etc. to portray the 11th hour as a PG (girly) version of the game. In thinking about our media today, I can see how a lot of things could get a better rating if you took out a few choice words, but I really wanted to rework the format to make it REALLY PG.
This is one reason why Creative Commons is great because one project can have 100 possibilities, and this is why I think Claire's work is interesting related to Alice. Also, personal connection is always important to have with a piece. In the piece I created -- the 11th hour was a game i had played a lot as a kid, so when taking a story to presenting it in a new and different way, there was years of difference as well. I did this in Joline's hypertext class, which is a great class to take to examine narrative structures and come with with projects like Claire's.
Alice is one of those stories that does have many meanings and over the years has been interpreted very differently for different purposes. In the literal sense of "acid trip" that Kory speaks of - just look Jefferson Airplanes - "White Rabbit" -- one pill makes you big one makes you small - but the air of the song is very spaced out and emphasizes the usage of pills to transform yourself.
Really anything can have these levels of meanings. I often watch horror films and look at the sociological implications of the films. I saw a film called nightmare man a few weeks ago and the film was very much about (at least to me) rape in our culture. To some, maybe just another slasher flick. being critical allows projects such as Clare's project on Alice, mine on 11th hour, or jefferson airplane's journey through alice!
I like everyone else had issues with hearing the audio, of the video; I too wish greatly that I could have seen the actual piece Alice. It seems to be very interesting, also the story alone of Alice, like mat said has been done in so many different ways that it would be really cool to see it done possibly in a way that has yet to be done. The story is very simple and I think that is why it lends itself to so many meanings and interpretations.
The idea of falling down and having it be always the same sensation but never the same, sounds and seems to be confusing but in fact I think that the idea is actually quite understandable. Elana put it quite nicely with the saying of how you will never walk through the same river twice. It can be applied exactly as she put it, that in life though things appear to be routine and always the same they are in fact never exactly the same, that no matter how much you try to prove it, you can not say that this exact thing is going happen exactly like this exactly at this moment in time, and even though you may try to do something exactly the same it will always have some sort of variation. Predictability is an interesting thing, it is more or less an educated guess based on an observation over time, or an exact first person experience of the instance that is occurring.
Life is simply too complex to predict, by any means of a basic understanding, yes you can mathematically prove that the probability is extremely high, but you would be ignorant to take anybodies word complete for what they are saying as if it were to be absolutely true. The argument is as old as time and even tends to revolve around time, and all the dramatic involved in it, when was time created, what is time, who created time, when does time begin and where does time end. In all I think that the idea of a project based on Alice’s fall is very interesting and raises many questions about many different subjects, their origins and the destinations.
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Watching this lecture made me wish that I had been able to see Claire'e piece, because the way she described it, I couldn't quite understand what it actually was; I got a good impression, but it is nothing like being there and experiencing it, of course. Also the audio was pretty poor for me, there was a lot of background noise which interfered with her speech, so I wasn't sure I was getting the entire picture. What I did get from her explanation was that it was done on a digital projection overhead, and based on Alice in Wonderland. Claire said she had a certain affinity with the character, and that was how she came to choose it. She didn't really explain her connection with Alice, however, until much later in the lecture - or at least, when she began talking about what the meaning and the concept of the piece was, I got a sense of what had driven her to create this art.
She mentioned that she reinterprets Alice's story in her own work, and extracts a main theme from the story. What she is trying to show is Alice's fall, and her work is all about this one moment in Alice's story. Again, here the audio was pretty poor, cut I believe she said something about showing the exact moment of when you fall: that it is always the same (that is, when you fall you'll always have the same sensation, etc.), but it is always different as well. I couldn't really understand this, but there is an old saying, "You can't step in the same river twice". Perhaps this sort of wisdom is applicable here. Raph went on to ask her about how she herself explores video, and that you can explore the motion (in Claire's case, the fall of Alice) and see it for what it is, or you can derive a meaning from this motion. For Claire, the motion of falling represents the time you are alive, a period in which you will grow and move from one stage to another. I think this concept can tie in with the fall being always the same and always different. Every moment in life is unique, distinct and individual, and the passage of time ties them together, but even though it may feel the same, or routine, it never is.
These are situations, agreeing with Elana, that I had seen Claire's Alice piece. Combining her fascination with video art and connecting it with the story of Alice in Wonderland seems very interesting, which is an interesting concept because Alice in Wonderland has so many different levels of meaning.
Her connection tot he story was what drove her in creating the piece. She brought up the "falling down the rabbit hole" many times- which, to me, is where the connection lies.
Film is her medium of choice because to her, it allows more exploration than drawing, her original visual medium.
I think it's important to understand fundamental art skills like drawing because it is what all these mediums derived from- the question is if it's "really important" for a creator to have explored those "primitive" mediums before the younger ones.
Maybe it's just important to be well rounded?
I agree that VJ's do break the cinematic narrative by combining story and visual elements. Clairs use of the story of Alice and representing it in a different manner is an example of that.
note:
if you didn't catch her site it's
http://www.myspace.com/a_li_ce
I also had a bit of a hard time understand all of the lecture, with the background noises and distractions. The piece she did, which I wish I could have seen, is on a topic which intrigues me. I always classify Alice in Wonderland to be the scariest movie of all time. The way the story is told, the turns and twists, and how the movie is supposed to be a kids movie, but it is more like an acid trip gone bad (disclaimer: I've never done acid, I'm just guessing).
I understood that there was an overhead camera projecting the piece, and she was underneath with a cello player. Besides that I didn't catch much besides what Elana and Stephen commented on.
I would have really liked to see this piece because of my fascination with Alice in Wonderland, and my fear of the movie.
As I have said before I enjoy misrepresented intentions. In the case of Claire taking Alice in Wonderland to a different place and using the narrative for her own purposes.
I did a project that reinterprets a story for a different purpose -- (http://www.wavinghand.com/nmd203/a2.html)
BASIC EXPLANATION : Therefore the game is based on, wordplay, scavenger hunting, and puzzle solving. The game is very graphic with violence and some scenes that deem the game an R-rating. Therefore, i wanted to use some of the wordplay (which i find very intersting), anagrams, etc. to portray the 11th hour as a PG (girly) version of the game. In thinking about our media today, I can see how a lot of things could get a better rating if you took out a few choice words, but I really wanted to rework the format to make it REALLY PG.
This is one reason why Creative Commons is great because one project can have 100 possibilities, and this is why I think Claire's work is interesting related to Alice. Also, personal connection is always important to have with a piece. In the piece I created -- the 11th hour was a game i had played a lot as a kid, so when taking a story to presenting it in a new and different way, there was years of difference as well. I did this in Joline's hypertext class, which is a great class to take to examine narrative structures and come with with projects like Claire's.
Alice is one of those stories that does have many meanings and over the years has been interpreted very differently for different purposes. In the literal sense of "acid trip" that Kory speaks of - just look Jefferson Airplanes - "White Rabbit" -- one pill makes you big one makes you small - but the air of the song is very spaced out and emphasizes the usage of pills to transform yourself.
Really anything can have these levels of meanings. I often watch horror films and look at the sociological implications of the films. I saw a film called nightmare man a few weeks ago and the film was very much about (at least to me) rape in our culture. To some, maybe just another slasher flick. being critical allows projects such as Clare's project on Alice, mine on 11th hour, or jefferson airplane's journey through alice!
THE JOURNEY OF THE HUMAN BRAIN!
I like everyone else had issues with hearing the audio, of the video; I too wish greatly that I could have seen the actual piece Alice. It seems to be very interesting, also the story alone of Alice, like mat said has been done in so many different ways that it would be really cool to see it done possibly in a way that has yet to be done. The story is very simple and I think that is why it lends itself to so many meanings and interpretations.
The idea of falling down and having it be always the same sensation but never the same, sounds and seems to be confusing but in fact I think that the idea is actually quite understandable. Elana put it quite nicely with the saying of how you will never walk through the same river twice. It can be applied exactly as she put it, that in life though things appear to be routine and always the same they are in fact never exactly the same, that no matter how much you try to prove it, you can not say that this exact thing is going happen exactly like this exactly at this moment in time, and even though you may try to do something exactly the same it will always have some sort of variation. Predictability is an interesting thing, it is more or less an educated guess based on an observation over time, or an exact first person experience of the instance that is occurring.
Life is simply too complex to predict, by any means of a basic understanding, yes you can mathematically prove that the probability is extremely high, but you would be ignorant to take anybodies word complete for what they are saying as if it were to be absolutely true. The argument is as old as time and even tends to revolve around time, and all the dramatic involved in it, when was time created, what is time, who created time, when does time begin and where does time end. In all I think that the idea of a project based on Alice’s fall is very interesting and raises many questions about many different subjects, their origins and the destinations.
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